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Monday, January 5, 2009

Somebody Scream Chapter 13 Questions

Hi all--feel free to respond to just one, or as many as you wish--please spell check and keep your responses as thoughtful and detailed as possible!

1. We know there are many rappers out there who claim to be Hip-Hop artists. Who really is hip-hop--and why?

2. Many rappers use their popularity and wealth to help poor black people (certain rappers rallying to help victims from Hurricane Katrina come to mind), but do the messages of misogyny, violence, drug and alcohol abuse, and finally--getting rich at all costs actually help keep people in poverty--rather than lift them out of poverty?

3. Will Hip-Hop music eventually run its course like Rock N' Roll of the 1950s or electro-pop of the 1980s--or will it continue to grow and become a greater powerhouse in the future of the music industry?

41 comments:

mz_lala said...

1. There is a difference between hip hop artist and rap artist. Hip Hop music was originally influenced with beatboxing, breakdancing,DJing and rhyme incorporation. Hip Hop is music from artist like Common, Jay-Z, Outkast, MC Lyte, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, A Tribe Called Quest, and Run DMC. Hip Hop is a style of music that sends a positive message.

2. These messages of degrading women, violence,and drug abuse both lift people out of poverty and keep some people in poverty. This type of input affects black people in a negative way and keeps them in poverty because these things can lead them to be in jail, dead, poor and addicted to drugs. Getting rich at all cost actually help keeps people in poverty because if your only skill is selling drugs or making drugs you will not make it far in the real world when what you need to survive is an education and all you know how to do is make crack and or be a delivery man. Also when people solely depend on that lifestyle to help them survive for the rest of their lives they wind up poor or dead when that wears out or they quit it.
Getting rich at all cost can help keep black people out of poverty temporarily because it is not everlasting. This can also help keep black people out of poverty because some rap artist do give money back to their old neighborhoods and help the people to buy things and to basically provide for some of their needs.

3. I believe that hip hop music will eventually run its course because rap music has completely taken over the game. And because some artists confuse the difference between rap and hip hop music some rap artist label themselves as hip hop artist when they are just rappers.

mimi said...

Although many rap artists consider them hip hop artists, I would disagree with them. Hip hop is a subculture, talking about things such as change, or ways to make things better. It's not about making the most money, or getting with every women you meet. So who really is hip hop? I would say the top REAL hip hop artists would be, Common, Lupe Fiasco, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Nas, Kid Cudi, and Will.I.Am. Those artists talk about things that are worth listening to, worth agreeing with. That's what the radio needs to be playing.

Tigg3r said...

I strongly believe that in this day and age rap and hip hop have been involved in the common misconception of being similar, when I adamantly feel that this is not true. Speaking on the subject of hip-hop, its meaning and who is actually hip hop, I feel that hip hop carries a message behind its lyrics. I feel those hip hop artists are people that talk about social, economic, and even global issues. Hip hop lyricist carry a meaning, something more than calling women bitches and hoes, but about how women have a special place in their hearts and society in general. Rap on the other hand, is like a get rich quick scheme. Meaning, you make one song that people like and you set for life. All you have to do in rap is not have a message but call women a few bitches, throw a dance move in the mix and instant success. I think hip hop is represented well through the careers of people like, Common, Lupe Fiasco, Nas, The Cool Kids, and Kanye West. I believe they have more of a message and meaning behind their music, and that’s exactly what hip hop is and what it should be.

Unknown said...

Okay. This is the response for the second question. In a way hip hop only makes people that are struggling with poverty stay in poverty simply because rappers don't really promote ways on how people can get out of poverty. Generally for the vast majority of people that largely inflict themselves with listening to only hip hop music are usually living under poverty anyway. These people are also wasting there money by helping these rappers make a living by purchasing there cd's. Buying these rapper's cds only helps them become wealthy but what helps people under poverty get economical gain. NOT RAPPERS! I don't have anything against it, as a matter of fact I'm listening to young jeezy right now but lets be real here people, does listening to rappers blag about how much money they made this past year help fill your pockets up with them dividens. In a since it does motivate you to go get paid doing something you like to do, but realistically it doesn't pay you anything.

Blue Moon27 said...

1. There aren't many Hip-Hop artists today, but there were a few before. Also, a rapper doesn't have to be a hip hop artist, he can be a rap artist, but I am not sure of the people who claim to be Hip-Hop artists but are not.

2. I think that sometimes the message rappers give out does influence other people in poverty to move and do something about their lives, but the way they portray that is in a very wrong way. Drugs, alcohol, violence, these all add on to the reason why so many people fall in to poverty, drugs and alcohol can ruin your life, and violence can lock you up. Maybe they are trying to help out a good cause but the way they do it, just adds on to the poverty already here in the U.S. Misogyny portrayed by artists also adds on the wrong message read by people. Just because they believe women behave like that does not mean women actually do it, and this might discourage younger women in poverty. This might show them that if they try, all they're going to achieve is the disrespect of men.

3. I think that it can grow in to something greater as long as artists can show people that they care about the political problems and that they care about the people.

Unknown said...

Hip-hop isn't as strong today as it was then. I am not going to lie, my generation is a spoiled and media generation. We like things to be easy and not get in depth of the problem.
Hip- hop has a feel to it. It brings out the best in someone. It complements someone's mood. The lyrics sends a message through the mood and its purpose at hand is to speak on it and bring a sense of relief to a person.
Artists like lil wayne, gucci mann and more, music only have a nice beat and spitting mediocre lyric content. The possibility of this genre countinously going down this path of degrading women, flashing money, cars, and clothes, will become redundant. On the flipside, there are hip- hop artists like common, talib kweli, kanye west, lupe fiasco, the cool kids, and mos def are changing the path hip hop is going down. These artists still appeal to a younger audience with nice clothes and cars and things like that in their videos. But in the end its the lyrics that make their songs hip hop. What they have to say and how they say it determines what type of artist they are. Because if there wasn't materilistic domination in the industry now, what would many rappers talk about?

Unknown said...

1.) The rappers who are considered to be hip-hop in my opinion are the rappers that convey a message through their lyrics that does not include violence nor' opression, but rather of living life to the fullest with all that one desires. For example, many hip-hop artists debut their number one hit song on a music video that mostly involves luxury, money, love from women, dancing, and fashion trends. This image portrays the positive side of life that many African Americans wish to live, setting off hope for many, instead of the downgrading gutter in reality they cannot escape.

2.) There are rappers from two different genres of music, gangsta rap and hip-hop, in which hip-hop is the winner when it comes down to portraying a better side of life than gangsta rap usually does. Russell Simmons, a former hip-hop pioneer who has signed and
managed many artists from this genre, confronts social 'injustice' that minority
groups face like New York's Rockefeller drug laws in 2003, which treated blacks and latinos 'unfairly' if accused of possession of drugs to long term sentences behind bars. However, Simmons'fight to modify these drug laws were innefective, resulting in longer jails terms if accused of possession of narcotics. Like Reeves wrote, "If Simmons or any hip-hop figure trying to translate pop culure power into political power learned annything from this, it was that celebrity ony gets you access."
Gangsta rap depicts the violent and illegal lives that a majority of African Americans lead, which in most cases influences the violent side of the minds of many listeners, therefore keeping these poor black people in the mindset of helplessness. Gangsta rap music does not really move to end violence, but 'brings the hammer down' more and more.

biancatigger said...

If rappers constantly rap about violence, drugs and alcohol abuse then that is exactly what they encourage. Poverty will not lift up if inspiration doesn’t happen. Rappers need to inform it’s audience about goal setting, and hard work to strive to become something better than living in poverty. Opportunities are out there but ambition and encouragement is required in order to uplift out of poverty. With negativity constantly being portrayed by those that we idol, then that is exactly the glamorized life we want to be a part of.

The only way I believe Hip-Hop will outlast and become a powerhouse in the future is if the truth and passion is put back into the music such as was put when Hip-Hop artist were talking about fighting for rights and really encourage their audience to become something better. That is the only way Hip-Hop will continue, if it just deals with drug, violence, and sex, then it will eventually die out like every other genre.

ms.lady said...

1. I believe that hip-hop is basically whatever you do that is a form of expression. expression basically means the act of expressing or setting forth in words. There is a difference between hip hop and rap, I dont understand why anyone would think otherwise. When you tune into wgci, they say hip hop and r&b. Hip hop is a message, on the other hand rap is just a song to play in your car or when your out trying to "stunt".

Mr.Blah Vlah Blah said...

I believe that Rap and Hip-Hop are two diferent things. Rap is more of a type of music, whereas Hip-Hop is more of a lifestyle. To me, when I hear different Rap songs I hear the same message which is "Sex, drugs, money, and women" but when I hear Hip hip I hear more of a story, you understand that it comes with more of a culture. So for all of these rappers who "claim" that they are Hip-Hop artist, if all they rap about is "Sex, drugs, money, and women" then to me they are not hip-hop artist. As far as question number three, I believe that hip-hop will not run its course but Rap will becuase there are many new Hip-Hop artist that are coming up and many people are getting back into that Hip-Hop culture with the crazy color wardrob and putting away their "gangsta" clothes.

PS..Rock N' Roll has never ran its course...It still lives!

Chloe' Rose said...

The definition of hip hop continues to change over time, just as the usage of terms in generations. Hip hop is a movement, and the lyrics and message behind them actually has a meaning. All hip hop is not positive, because if it was, it would not be true, but the negativity put out triggers information in one's mind to feel and understand that something needs to be done to make it better. Rap has come to money and degrading anything that steps in one's way to the path they want to follow or the destination they want to reach. Artists such as Common, Tupac, Biggie Smalls, Lupe Fiasco, will.i.am, Mos Def, Nas, Talib Kweli, The Cool Kids, Salt n' Pepa, Run D.M.C., and on a level Kanye West, represent true hip hop, because they dont have to degrade people, set others down and speak negatively to get on top. They do so, if they do, to prove a point, and to help others realize that was has been demonstrated is wrong, and to think of something better. Of all these artists, Common, the Notorious BIG and Tupac is hip hop to me. They send the right messages, keep you thinking, maintain catchy beats and allow people of all ages to enjoy and benefit from their music....

Rainbow Love said...

3. I don't believe that rap will soon run its course i do believe that hip hop will run its course. The difference in rap and hip hop is that rap is all for show and unrealistic, it also talks about nothing. Hip hop is addressing the real facts in the "hood" and also around the world its deep and thoughtful. Now a days many seem to listen to and pay for more rap albums than hip hop albums. Hip hop which was once "the voice" is now a sudden annoying sound.

Anonymous said...

Hip hop will at some point eventually die out. The new and upcoming artists that claim to be hip hop artist are nothing close to it. Most of their songs have no relevance to them it’s just something you can bump in the car or club. Hip hops founders have left hip hop music without any sense of direction to follow so in turn it made its on path and that is what we see today. Not to say that they are to blame for the way in which hip hop is going but to say that they should have seen this coming and tried to inform up an coming artist what hip hop is all about.

cookie09 said...

Rappers often use messages about how they did negative things like use drugs, violence and went to jail but were still enabled to be lifted out of poverty and became rich. Messages like these don’t actually help poor black people get out of poverty. Instead I think that it sinks them deeper into poverty because it sells them a fake dream. People are led to believe that they can sell drugs and commit acts of violence and that it’s okay because one day they will make it out like a famous person. I feel that if rappers really want to uplift people then they should rap about positive things like getting an education and working a legal job. Many people think that if a rapper raps about positive things that the music won’t sell but if the rapper is respected then people will listen. All people can’t be like rappers and leading people to believe that they can sells them fake dreams. This doesn’t lift people out of poverty.

Myzz. Slick said...

I think there's a line to be drawn between hip-hop artist and rap artist. I think rap artist are people who's main focus is for thier lyrics to be heard and understood and who's main goal is to be a great lyricist. Hip-hop artist are rappers who want to thier lyrics to be heard as well as a good beat behind it. These are the rappers who's beats get stuck in your head and who usually make dances for thier songs. Depending on how people take the music message determines if hip-hop lifts or keeps them in poverty. People who take the music literally for what it is usually stays in poverty because thier main focus is to get what they want and and the materialistic things immediatley instead of realizing what the artist went through to get where they are and the place where they are gives them the roomto brag about the stuff they now have. Some of the messages the music has also keeps people in poverty because they fail to realize that selling drugs and degrading themselves as well as others doesn't bring them up, but pushes them further down.I believe hip-hop will never end or go out of style because there will always be someone to improve it and keep it going because someone will always want thier voice to be heard and thier message to get out. Somebody has to speak for those who can't speak for themselves and hip-hop will allow that to continue to happen.

mz.understood said...

I believe that although many rappers create songs on the notion that selling drugs is a quick way to get money and violence is the only way to gain respect, it isn't the only message people receive by listening to their music. Many rappers inspire the youth to stick with their dreams and to never give up on themselves. Although a rappers lyrics to a song may say one thing, this isn't necessarily the only thing an individual has to base their opinion off of about an artist. They also participate in many communal activities which show children that it's good to give back and help others.Therefore, I am convinced that a community is more influenced by a rappers positive actions opposed to their negative words. Thus, encouraging the environment and inspiring others to expound on their talents in order to reach greatness.

Unknown said...

I personally do not think hip hop will ever die out completely. There are too many people that have a connection to hip hop whether they like the music or not to let it simply fade away. Like the rock and roll of the 1950’s, it may have its times when it may fade away and go underground but at some point it definitely will resurface. People think because commercial hip hop is prominent on the radio that the essence of real hip hop is dead and that couldn’t be more wrong.

Mrz.Radcliffe said...

I am responding to the second question. Many rappers I know of do great charity work and donate large amounts of money to different non-profit organizations. Some of them include,Kanye West, 50 cent, Ludacris, lil wayne, and Jay Z to name a few. These same people also use their popularity and fame to get other people to do the same. This is all fine and well, however, those same rappers spit lyrics filled with mysogeny, violence, drugs and alcohol, and a false sense of hope. The latter comes from the image these people put out which in turn makes the people who idolize them beileve they can be like them. Rapping about licking "lollipops" (lil wayne),smoking kush(lil wayne), and living the good life (all), doesn't help people. They only help to keep people in proverty only because the people try to emulate these rappers and do the wrong thing by tryin to live well above their means. This includes buyong the latest Jordans, and expensive clothes.

mz.misunderstood said...

I feel that the messages that rappers are delivering are keeping blacks in poverty. First of all, when rappers talk about drug and alcohol abuse its causes some people to result to drug and alcohol usage. Some people become addicted and their chances of coming out of poverty are lost. When they talk about getting rich at all costs I think it influences people to go out and make money the illegal way. Then they either end up in jail or dead. If rappers sent out a different more positive message then maybe they will help blacks come out of poverty.

kelsey_markee said...

1. I believe that those out there that are actually in the hip hop game solely for speaking the truth and lifting up the black and brown races as a whole are the ones who are really hip hop. Those that speak out about the atrocities that afflict us and ways for getting a foothold in getting past it are the ones who are really what they often rap about.

2. The fact that rappers use their popularity and wealth to help poor black people is positive aspect of their personal and celebrity lives. It affects the community because the younger generations sees these rappers really trying to make a difference in their lives. They also see that just because you're a rapper it doesn't mean that you have to always live up to the street cred you project in the vidoes. Now misogyny, violence, and all kinds of abuse are subjects that have always been seen as negative but sometimes it can have a different spin to it. The things our generation sees in the videos of today could actually inspire them to not walk in the footsteps of those they see being disrespected and put in jail.
At the same time it gives off a negative effect because some children don't really think about what comes with being a rapper or trying to be one. They think that they'll be just like Jay-Z, B.I.G, or Tupac by letting the streets raise them and from there moving into the rap game given the amount of street cred they got; they're wrong. This could keep them in poverty because they may not be able to make it out of the streets then they'll just be another statistic for the African American race.

KING YC said...

1. Some people say that today's music isn't hip hop, it isn't the same. Of course it isn't. It isn't the same time. We live in a different time. When hip hop first came about it was based off djs, breaking dancing, beatboxing, etc. That's because that's what people were into in those days. Even before this generation's music hip hop had already went through its sets of changes. I mean of course it's some hip hop artist who are just plain weak and don't even have a since of what rapping is about or how to do it correctly. But even hip hop in the 80s had those. I mean every artist is an hip hop artist. They're what makes the hip hop game what it is. The game as changed because it's always going to change, everything changes. But one can't say that some artist aren't hip hop artist because of the way they think music is today. Every artist who produces hip hop music is a hip hop artist because they are contributing to the game, the music that people are going to listen to everyday.

jcy_c0utur3 said...
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jcy_c0utur3 said...

3. My Opinion:
Honestly i would have to say that hip hop died within the past 10 years. Like many of the students have said, there is a difference between hip hop and rap; 20 years ago you could have put those two in the same category but not in todays society. Hip hop was built on activist. Whether the issue dealt with their neighborhood or the world, these people identified an issue and used music as a form of protest. I can count how many "hip hop" artist there are today on one hand and they include, Mos Def, Talib Kwali, Common, and (early) Kanye West. ANYBODY can be a rapper...even Soulja Boy is a rapper. The rap game today is strong because it has a lot of members and will most likely grow and become a powerhouse in the future. But hip hop? Hip hop is dead.

Rocio said...

I think hip-hop artist are those who actually take time to think of their songs instead of producing tracks that have no relevance as to what is going on in the world. Hip hop when it first began was music regarding social issues and struggles many people were facing. Now most of the music degrades women by calling them bit*&^ and hoes, when before it was mainly about love. Hip-Hop music has taken a 360 degree turn when before songs would hardly use any foul language now that is what they mainly say. Although artist keep talking about the same thing over and over again people continue to listen to their music and buying their CDs helping them conquer success. Hip-Hop will never fade away completely it will always remain in the lives of those who were part of its peak point. While I do believe that when another genre comes Hip-Hop just like any other music will become part of history. As of now artist will continue to degrade women, talk about sex, and drugs simply because it is what sells.

rae said...

1. I agree with mz_lala about what hip hop music really is because it sends out a more positive message out to the listeners than rap music. Some of my favorite hip hop artists include Jay-Z,OutKast,Run-DMC,LL Cool J,Common,and Kanye West. Hip hop artists are usually the ones that step outside the box and not try to copy what other music artists are doing. Who I really think is a true hip hop artist is Jay-Z because she speaks the truth and he doesn't try to put on a false front to impress people.Other people who are true hip hop artists are the group Run-DMC because they use their music to make people aware of what is going on , such as racism and politics. I also like Kanye West because on television he gets to the point of the conversation by saying things like, "George Bush does not care about Black people."

Misspongebob23 said...

I believe that HipHop wont die out at all. There are rappers like JayZ who have been in the Hip Hop industry for a very long time. Lil Wayne (even though I dont like him much) he is also someone who has been around for a very long time. As long as you have some of the older generation of Hip Hop around then theres nothing to worry about. Some Hip Hop artist might start their career for like 5 years then stop for about 5 more years and start back up again. There is no way Hip Hop can die, as long as you still have some Common's, Lil Wayne's, etc. And some one hit wonders Hip Hop wont die out at all.
I wouldnt say it would be so much of a power house, everything is going to be more about getting money, having everything, and sex. And you may have a few rappers that are still trying to get the positve message out. But they will mostlikely get over powered by the more xplict artist.

Jay said...

I believe their are some true hip hop artists and have a passion for music. While others are doing to gain popularity and money. They don't have a passion for it and don't care about the message they are sending out. Only discussing money, cars, women and fashion. Making the music that will sell to the public which majority of the time is not positive. The definition of Hip Hop has definatley changed because what is being portrayed now is not Hip Hop.

sacrdhazldiva said...

I don't think Hip-Hop will ever die out its just a matter of rappers and the content of their music. When you have rappers like Soulja Boy, Bow Wow, and Dolla Dolla not rapping about anything or just rapping to make money Hip-Hop can eventually fade out but there are good rappers like Wayne, Kanye, Common, and T.I. who keeps the Hip-Hop nation alive and well. So it just really all depends on who keeps entering the rap game.
I really don't think the mentality of getting money at all costs keeps our neighborhoods in poverty it's all matter of people helping themselves and the Government's involvement.

jimmylee said...

1. To me hip-hop isn't what it use to be. Yes, some can argue well thats because times have changed; however, horrible things have always happened and hip-hop was a way to inform and enlighten the black and brown people of this world. Hip-hop isn't women shaking their bodies in a video or a guy rapping about making money. Its those who use it to survive, like those that are underground and yes wish to become famous, but they promise themselves that money won't change a thing. Hip-hop is their way of making a life.

2.I think that on the topic of drugs and abuse and misogny, it does send people right back into poverty because they believe in things like that. They idol those who talk about the easy way of life and not actually working for a living.

3.Truthfully, I don't know. I can't say it'll run its course because hip-hop has a very strong history and with the generation to come someone will bring it up. I don't know I can't imagine not living with hip-hop, I just wish that it could be as great as it use to be.

jp_2010 said...

I believe the artists who really are hip hop are those who really have a true meaning behind their songs rather then the usual content of drugs, sex, and making money. Today, artists put out songs that are irrelevant, and have no good affect on the society as a whole. The whole hip hop game is keeping itself from being a powerful voice in this country. "Real" hip hop artists create songs that are not the same as what everyone else is rapping or performing about. Their songs have meaning, with a moral to it, along with living life to the fullest. Hip hop isn't dead...it's just dying slowly due to the demands of the society. It is as though society only wants to hear about gettin' money, hookin' up with as many chicks as possible, or gettin' high. Real hip hop is still out there (Mos Def, Talib Kweli, The Roots, Common, Nas, etc.), but I guess being "real" isn't what the people want to hear.

*~*simply_me*~* said...

This is an answer to the third question. I believe that if hip-hop continues in the direction that it is going now, it won’t last very much longer. Hip-hop started out as a meaningful form of music. Every song had a meaning or a message. People had reasons other than making money to write and record songs. Today music is made as entertainment. There is rarely a message to the songs that you hear now days. I believe that Hip- hop artists of to today should learn to focus less on sex, drugs and parties and focus more on the issues affecting us as a community in order for Hip hop to stay around.

doss802 said...

The messages of drugs, alcohol abuse, violence, and getting rich at all cost does keep people in poverty because it doesn’t explain the whole view of that specific life. Often times these songs are unrealistic in how they portray getting rich and do not present other career goals. They leave their listeners with one mind set on how to get money which is drugs not telling what comes with that lifestyle like jail or even death. So the listeners are left with what’s been said in the songs. If the only thing people know how to do to obtain wealth is sell drugs or become a rapper then people can’t maintain wealth as opposed to poverty because these careers are competitive and everybody can’t do it. Eventually hip hop music will run its course because of the lack of substance in their songs.

Kyra M. said...

Hip-Hop will never die out. I believe the thought of what is Hip-Hop will always change as the generation change. Hip-Hop is versitile and no one thing will ever stay the same. Hip-Hop may go through a dry spell and kind of fade out, but i believe it will always find a way to come back because of the different kinds of people and different age groups that fall in love with hip-hop. Hip-Hop will never die. It may go through sum changes but the legacy of hip-hop will continue in some way. The thought of rappers being hip-hop artist is unreal to me. Rap artist is a bad spin-off of hip-hop artist and if hip-hop is left up to the rap artist today then hip-hop will die out. No one wants to continue to hear about money, sex, and drugs for years and years to come.

rece3 said...

I believe that rappers using the wrong messages are keeping people in poverty. Yes, in times of need like Hurricane Katrina, many popular rappers are there to assist and help bring up the victims, but providing them with discriminatory and provocative music is leaving them in the same, poor situation. The same money that the rappers provide is the money that people go out and purchase their music with. For the rappers, it's a win-win situation because they are getting the much-needed publicity of being a great citizen and music artist, AND the people they are helping repay them in music profits. Nowadays, real rap isn't completely respected and the "candy" rap is selling greatly but sooner or later people will come out of the "poverty-like" mentality and realize that they are basically getting played!

SupaStar "Mi Xue" said...

As the B-Boy beats are buried and the traditional concept of Hip-Hop slowly fades away, more and more commercial rap blast from stereos and radios. Today, many old school artists and some new school artist have coined the phrase “Hip-Hop is dead.” I truly believe Hip-Hop will never die. I believe that Hip-Hop will never fade out like Rock and Roll in the 50’s. Hip-Hop is a representation of most African American youth, including what is hot among us, fashion, and what we may be thinking or want to hear at a certain time. Therefore, Hip-Hop will never die, because just like fads Hip-Hop changes, it conforms to fit the present generations. Today, more commercial rap is put out because that is what the people want to hear. Some people want to dance and crank this and that so they turn to Soulja Boy. Some people are still into the original Hip-Hop feel of things so they turn to Lupe, Common. Some people are more into the street music and new styles so they turn to Lil’ Wayne/ Jeezy or Kanye West.
Hip-Hop and rap can be divided but they are semi-reflections of each other.
Saying that Hip-Hop will die is like saying television shows will die. Yes, some get took off the air, but the actors and actress who are in those sitcoms move to different ones where they play different characters with similar characteristics of their previous character. Same thing with music artist, when they come to the point where what they are doing is no longer working, they move on and try something new, something that the people want to hear. As long as America changes, Hip-Hop will change. Just because it no longer is the jogging suits, cardboard, and big gold chain does not mean it no longer is here, it is, just redressed for the present.
Will Hip-Hop ever die? No…Will it go through a few heart attacks? LOL Maybe…but it will live on forever to beat our eardrums and our children’s eardrums to come.

myzz_BiG.bLaQ said...

I think that hip hop will never die out because it is constantly reinventing itself. Rock and roll died out because it was aimed at only one group of people. Techno music only attracted a certain group of people. Hip hop comes in so many forms; from spoken word to fashion hip hop is everywhere. It reaches out to a lot of people all over the world, even people you wouldn’t expect listen to hip hop. So no matter what other types of music come along I think that hip hop will continue to fit that certain time frame. If not then I think that people will continue to produce the art form but it will be contained to only certain radio stations that are devoted to hip hop.
I also think that those rappers that help with relief funds do send a good message to their listeners but to really make a difference they would have to do it through their music too. The people that look up to rappers really do believe that they can be just like them because of what their music is saying but they need to know that that is not the case. If their fans, which are mostly gullible youth, only see them doing good when disasters happen then they will eventually do the same thing in life. If they only hear rappers talk down to people then they will do the same thing too. Just because you do one good thing that doesn’t erase what you preach.

Dunnie said...

I believe that although hip hop artist help poorer countries that doesn’t matter if they go back to were the poor are and do harm to them by degrading them and misleading the audience of a perception of them self that is false and not what represents them. Although rappers aren’t directly telling people go out and sell drugs they are saying that they once sold drugs and got a lot of wealth from that so teens and some people who are influenced easily get the idea that if the artist got rich and they sold drugs or did this or that in order for me to succeed I need to take the same path as whom ever is their idle. They give money to one country and turn around and take away the self pride and dignity of the young.

brittany said...

1. Yes I do feel there is a difference between the reffering back to Hip Hop and R&B. Hip Hop is more of rap while R&B is more singing. they both are positive attributes to our history in my opinion.
2. I think music and lyrics are all how you take themm. meaning how can you find something insulting when still continue to bob your head to it. I feel in many cases that music actually helps people rather then influence them to do bad. Music is just music, a person are going to have their views regardless.
3.I also want to let it be known that Hip Hop is all how you take it. We were given the freedom of speech, so how can one take lyrics offensive?

Phoenix said...

Hip-Hop is more than just a verb; it is a way of life. It is a culture with its own sense of style and its own levels of being. Rap is a verb; it involves rhyming words to a beat. Because they are so different they are very difficult to compare.
Hip-Hop music and rap sound the same to many, but I can clearly tell the difference. This could perhaps be because I am a rap artist and not a hip-hop artist {by my standards}.
Hip-Hop is mostly about words, you tell a story when you produce hip-hop and thus the rhymes are not as plentiful as in rap. While it is very possible and often encouraged to tell stories in rap, it is more difficult because of the multis. A good rap artist combines multis, similes, metaphors, beats, alliteration and almost every other literature concept you have heard of. A good hip-hop artist makes a point, tells a story, and educates the masses.
I am a rapper, I do not write raps to help people, I write them to express my love for the English language.
Rap is fast paced, sometimes it can even sound like Slam-Poetry. Hip-Hop is slower, with more drawn out lines than the average rap song.

Hip-Hop example: “Never knew no better cause my mommy never taught me
Going out to get the shit that mommy never bought me
Only ten years old and I can't stay away from trouble
But you don't give a fuck cause you ain't never had to struggle
And everybody's tellin me its get greater later” it is by the Geto Boys.
You can clearly see from this example that the music is about the struggles he had as a child. It is also apparent that only the ends of the lines rhyme ’taught’ ‘bought’ ‘trouble’ ‘struggle’ with greater later being an odd exception. As well as the ‘mommy never’ line being repeated- that is not something widely accepted in rap- not when it comes directly before the rhyming words.

Rap example: ‘Straight drilled, ice filled- I succeeded to grill you
I’m Ill to the extent that’ll kill you while poppin’ pills, dude
These Vicoden and Anacin have got me panickin’,
Riddlin’ the Ritalin- feelin’ noradrenalin
I’m so high I’ll probably past it to my next-of-kin
An’ have ‘em thinkin’ “What in tha’ heck is noraphinephrine?”
After the antidepressants- doubt’s all that’s left then
But since it’s nothin’ left to lose I guess I’ll just… win?
“When?”’ This is by me, I wrote this last year. At any rate, you can take Eminem’s track ‘Drug Ballad’ as a famous example if you deem it necessary.
Now, I will explain: ‘drilled, filled, grill, ill’ kill connects ill and pills as well as starting it’s own chain with you and dude ‘kill you, pills dude’ as well as the ends of ‘vicodeonsn, acacin and panickin’ ‘Riddilin’, ritalin’, noradrenalin’ ‘next-of-kin, noraphinephrine, left then, just win, when’ with next-of-kin connecting the two because of its connection to adrenalin and noraphinephrine. Unfortunately, this has no effect on the economy or any positive impact at all other than to show that I know what noradrenalin and noraphinephrine are and how to rhyme words while using pills to explain how much better I am than my opponent.

As you can hopefully see, there is a vast difference between a rap and a hip-hop track. They have their own pros and cons, but if you can master the both of them, you will be the best rap/hip-hop artist.


Rappers that promote the negative aspects of life do more harm than good. The money they have is not enough to counter the way people feel. If the poverty stricken rap makes them feel good and want to live in poverty, they won’t try to graduate from school or get a job. {That’s what we’re aiming at, right? Heh…} There isn’t enough money for these rappers to shell out to save the people they are hurting.


Rap is constantly changing form on the radio. The actual rap does not change as often as most believe simply because its foundation is completely different from what modern society assumes of it. Many underground rappers realize this, but many aspiring artists do not and thus if they become famous they will only perpetuate the myths. Rap can die out faster than most people believe it will because there are artists like ‘Soulja Boy’ {sp?} who are completely disobeying and disregarding all the aspects of rap {which you should know many of by now.} So the heart of rap will die, but the fame of rap will not, sadly.
At least it might go out with a whimper and not a bang.

Enigma said...

2. Hip-Hiop definition has over the years been altered by the the misoygny, violence, degradation of women and alcohol abuse which has become the basis for many hip-hop artist lyrics. Those lyrics effects on Americans in poverty is not discontinued by their donations of money. It doen't dimiss the violent enviroments they have created through their music, which many do not believe the effects they are liable for...

3. Hip-hop will not ever run its course because it has had such wide range of lyrics mixed w/ other genres or it can b argued that hiphip has ran its course, just now rap is using its name to get by. It will continue never the less to be a power house in the future for money driven rappers, unable to answer to the education of youth.

Anonymous said...

1. People think hip hop music has no substance because what they hear on the radio or what they see on television is garbage. The truth is , hip hop has more substance than it ever did.The bad music is what sells so that is what it being promoted. There are many people who rap just because they love it-for the essence of it. Those are the real hip hop artists. Popular rap music is what people see and think that that is hip hop is all about. People that rap because they like it, not just because of the fame and money are the real hip hop artists because that was what the culture was created on.